“It’s never going to be easier to just learn and to make little money, than when you’re young and in the beginning.”
In this episode of Nat Chat, I’m joined again by Neil Soni to do another one of our book deep dives, this time on Mastery by Robert Greene.
Mastery is the best book that either of us have found at becoming a master of your craft, getting mentors, learning through experience, and reaching the top of your field. If you’re serious about self-education and becoming known for your work, there are few better books that you could read to help get you there, and we covered many of the key lessons in this episode.
This is also an exciting episode because it’s the launch of mine and Neil’s new podcast: “Made You Think,” which is dedicated to exploring books, articles, topics, and anything that set our minds on fire. The past episode on Antifragile was extremely popular, and this episode was a ton of fun recording, so we decided to run with it. Be sure to check out Made You Think to hear our episode on Letters from a Stoic, as well as listen to our Antifragile episode if you haven’t already.
In this episode though, we covered:
And much more. Enjoy! If you want more on Mastery, be sure to check out my notes on the book and pick up a copy yourself. And don’t forget to check out Made You Think for more podcast episodes like this one.
If you enjoyed our discussion on finding a mentor, you’ll love my episode with Charlie Hoehn, where we talk about how to find your dream mentor. You’ll also like my episode with Justin Mares and my episode with Taylor Pearson, where we talk about apprenticeships, mentors, and more. If you’re a fan of long term learning and self-discipline, you’ll enjoy my episode with Scott Britton.
Mentioned in the show:
2:03 – Start of the discussion. Nat discussing the layout of the book and how you can benefit from it.
7:58 – Anyone can become a master. Nat and Neil on the first steps to achieving mastery and on the first phase of the book, the apprenticeship phase.
12:10 – Focusing on your personal tendencies that hint at your purpose and thoughts on becoming more connected to yourself.
16:55 – Nat and Neil on Greene’s three steps for trying to reconnect with your calling and finding work that you truly enjoy.
19:14 – The large number of potential jobs that are there, but aren’t always easy to find. A few examples on this from Nat and Neil.
22:04 – Looking at your career as more of a journey with twists and turns, rather than a straight line. Also, some more ideas for finding the things that you’re really interested in.
27:27 – Speaking on learning everything that you can and then detailing the first steps of the apprenticeship phase.
33:12 – Discussing the importance of deliberate practice, deep work, and avoiding distractions to achieve optimal efficiency with your work.
36:47 – Greene’s strategies to help you complete the apprenticeship phase and for getting the most out of it.
40:22 – Trusting the process, not setting artificial metrics for yourself, and taking the harder options for more growth.
42:35 – Properly implementing feedback from your failures, the importance of trying different things, and broadening your skills.
45:25 – The necessity for having a mentor and learning from them.
53:05 – Choosing the correct mentor, avoiding common mistakes with your mentor, and advice for properly learning from them.
59:20 – Developing social intelligence and improving your ability to navigate personal interactions.
1:06:01 – Strategies to acquire social intelligence and advice for better connecting to others.
1:10:20 – Advice and steps for thinking beyond those initial guidelines, sparking new creativity, and continuing your learning beyond the constraints of the skill.
1:19:58 – Strategies for avoiding emotional pitfalls, maintaining patience, and continually improving yourself.
1:26:18 – Giving yourself an environment to be creative and to actively explore contradictions in yourself and in the world at large.
1:28:35 – Fusing the intuitive with the rational and achieving mastery, seeing the world as it really is, and really trying to understand other’s perspectives.
1:35:17 – Wrap up and some final thoughts on the book.